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Sarah Gristwood, Author of “Elizabeth: The Queen and the Crown”
January 30, 2023
Sarah Gristwood is one of the world’s best-selling historians, and she is our guest on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Sarah discusses her writings and research, how female historians are bringing a fresh approach to the discipline, and answers our Five Questions.
Sponsors
· Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
· NFP - A leading insurance broker and consultant
· Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Scott Sander, Host of WISH-TV’s “Daybreak.”
January 23, 2023
Scott Sander is one of the most respected & genuine of all Hoosier journalists, and he is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We discuss his career, his most memorable stories, who has the best hair in Indy, and what time in the morning he has to wake up to host WISH-TV’s “Daybreak.”
Sponsors
· Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
· NFP - A leading insurance broker and consultant
· Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Martin Dugard, Author of “Taking Berlin: The Bloody Race to Defeat the Third Reich”
January 16, 2023
The end of World War II in Europe is one of the most fascinating topics in military and political history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, best-selling author Martin Dugard discusses his book, “Taking Berlin: The Bloody Race to Defeat the Third Reich”, which is a brilliant and fast-paced account of how the Allied armies encountered each other in 1945.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- NFP - A leading insurance broker and consultant
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Todd Huston, Speaker of the Indiana House of Representatives
January 09, 2023
Representative Todd Huston is the Speaker of the Indiana House of Representatives and this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Co-host Jim Shella and I talk with Todd about his family’s political history, what made him run for office, and the responsibilities of being Speaker.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- NFP - A leading insurance broker and consultant
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

United States Senator Todd Young
January 02, 2023
Just reelected to the United States Senate (and winning 89 of Indiana’s 92 counties), Todd Young represents Hoosiers with purpose, faith, and distinction. Senator Young was a guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast in May 2020, and we are reposting our conversation with him in honor of his latest victory.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Former Purdue Coach Gene Keady
December 26, 2022
In honor of Purdue University’s standing as the number one ranked men’s college basketball team in the country, we are reposting our fun and terrific “Leaders and Legends” podcast interview with Coach Gene Keady. Just as he did while winning six Big Ten championships, Coach Keady was to the point and no-holds barred.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Toby McClamroch and John Dillon
December 19, 2022
Toby McClamroch and John Dillon personify what it means to be loyal and close friends—and politics be damned. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with these two amazing Citizens of Indianapolis about their friendship, their storied CYO coaching careers, and what the passing of Rex Early means to them.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Historian Taylor Downing on His Book “1942: Winston Churchill and Britain’s Darkest Hour.”
December 12, 2022
Was 1942 the decisive year of World War II? Historian Taylor Downing argues that it is, and he is this week’s guest on the Leaders and Legends podcast. Taylor is the author of “1942: Winston Churchill and Britain’s Darkest Hour.” It is a wonderfully written and very informative book, and I hope you enjoy our conversation. Sponsors- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station

Will Inboden, Author of “Peacemaker: Ronald Reagan, the Cold War, and the World on the Brink”
December 05, 2022
Dr Will Inboden is author of the brilliant new book “Peacemaker: Ronald Reagan, the Cold War, and the World on the Brink” and he is also our guest on the Leaders and Legends podcast. Dr Inboden takes us through the world as it was in the 1980s, how President Reagan’s leadership changed history, and close we actually came to a nuclear war.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Levi Roach, Author of “Empires of the Normans”
November 28, 2022
Is the history of the Normans more than just the feats of William the Conqueror in 1066? Yes, says Professor Levi Roach. In this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we discuss Dr Roach’s new book "Empires of the Normans” which details how these descendants of the Vikings dominated European and Asian leadership and politics for centuries. Sponsors- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station

Remembering Rex Early
November 21, 2022
He was a man as unique as his name: Rexford Carlisle Early. We lost Rex, a former Marine, on Veterans Day, and in tribute the “Leaders and Legends” podcast convened three of his closest friends to talk about Rex’s life, times, and laugh lines. Please enjoy Ann Delaney, Murray Clark, and Jim Shella as we reminisce about a true Hoosier original.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Craig Shirley, Biographer of Ronald Reagan
November 14, 2022
Craig Shirley is a prolific and award-winning historian who has chronicled the rise and legacy of Ronald Reagan, the beginning and end of World War II, and is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. What impact did President Reagan have on America and the world? Craig takes us through the career of one of our country’s greatest presidents.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Gareth Russell, Author of “Do Let’s Have Another Drink: the Dry Wit and Fizzy Life of Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother”
November 07, 2022
Gareth Russell is a best-selling author and historian who was kind enough to join the “Leaders and Legends” podcast this week to discuss his delightful and funny book: “Do Let’s Have Another Drink: the Dry Wit and Fizzy Life of Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother.” It’s full of terrific stories and anecdotes (some of them related to what we saw in “The King’s Speech”) while painting a beautiful portrait of the person Adolf Hitler once called “the most dangerous woman in Europe.”
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Clint Hill, Secret Service Agent For Jackie Kennedy
October 31, 2022
A few years ago, we posted an interview with President John F. Kennedy Secret Service Agent Clint Hill and his co-author Lisa McCubbin Hill; just this month Agent Hill has released a new book titled “My Travels with Mrs. Kennedy” and in honor of his new effort, we are re-posting our “Leaders and Legends” conversation with Clint. He and his wife were fabulous guests who were very forthcoming not only about the events of November 22, 1963, but also the process of writing history as Clint lived it. You may buy Agent Hill’s new book at: https://clinthillsecretservice.com/books/.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Dr Nicola Tallis, Author of Uncrowned Queen: The Life of Margaret Beaufort, Mother of the Tudors
October 24, 2022
Dr Nicola Tallis is the author of several books on British history, and she is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We discuss her books on 16th-century history, how a new generation of female historians is changing our knowledge of history, and why studying the past is so important. Find her books here: https://nicolatallis.com/books/.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Dwight Chapin, Author of “The President’s Man: The Memoirs of Nixon’s Trusted Aide”.
October 17, 2022
Dwight Chapin was one of President Richard Nixon’s closest aides both during his political comeback in the late 1960s and while he was president. In part one of a two part interview, Dwight is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We discuss his enthralling and highly-praised new book: “The President’s Man: The Memoirs of Nixon’s Trusted Aide”.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

John Wechsler, CEO of Spokenote
October 10, 2022
John Wechsler is one of Indiana’s most impactful and respected entrepreneurs—and he is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. John joins us to talk about how his military service prepared him for his career, why Indianapolis is respected as a tech hub, and his new video venture—Spokenote. Sponsors- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station

Larry Csonka, Super Bowl VIII MVP – Part Two
October 03, 2022
Larry Csonka, Super Bowl VIII MVP - Part Two
In part two of our “Leaders and Legends” podcast interview with NFL Hall of Famer and Super Bowl VIII MVP Larry Csonka, we discuss why he decided to write his book “Head On: A Memoir”, some of his favorite playing memories, and if he ever ran over the incomparable Dick Butkus.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Larry Csonka, Super Bowl VIII MVP – Part One
September 26, 2022
Larry Csonka is one of the greatest players in NFL history. He is a two-time Super Bowl champion, was named MVP of Super Bowl VIII, and is author of “Head On: A Memoir". In part one of our “Leaders and Legends” podcast interview, The Zonk talks about his early years playing football, the effect Don Shula had on his career, and what it was like to go 17-0.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

“Queen Elizabeth II: An Oral History” Authors Deborah Hart Strober and Gerald Strober,
September 19, 2022
The passing of Queen Elizabeth II after reigning for more than 70 years is dominating the media around the globe and tugging at the heart strings of millions of people worldwide. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast with discuss the late Queen’s life with Deborah Hart Strober and Gerald Strober, the authors of “Queen Elizabeth II: An Oral History.” The Strobers were granted unprecedented access to compile dozens of interviews with people close to Her Majesty, and they tell us some terrific stories.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

John Gregg, Former Indiana Speaker of the House
September 12, 2022
Former Indiana Speaker of the House and two-time gubernatorial candidate John Gregg is one of the most well-liked, humorous, and accomplished public servants in modern Indiana history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, Speaker Gregg talks about his career, his connection with his fellow Hoosiers, and how much he enjoyed being in the Statehouse. Our friend—and John’s friend—Jim Shella joins us for the conversation.
Sponsors:
•Veteran Strategies
•Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
•MacAllister Machinery
•Garmong Construction
•Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies:
Leaders and Legends"is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran businessenterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana:
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon $Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scouttroop, and every year since, we"ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage,confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We"re the preeminent leadershipdevelopment organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visitgirlscoutsindiana.orgor call 317.924.6800.

Kurt Vonnegut Museum and Library’s Chris Lafave and Kip Tew
August 29, 2022
Kurt Vonnegut is one of the most brilliant and famous Hoosier writers in our state’s history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast our conversation is with Chris Lafave, curator of the Indy-based Kurt Vonnegut Museum and Library and Vonnegut fan and our friend Kip Tew. We discuss Kurt’s writings, his influences, and how his writings have affected us all.
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- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Historian Jeff Shesol, Author of “Mutual Contempt: Lyndon Johnson, Robert Kennedy and the Feud that Defined a Decade.”
August 22, 2022
The clash between President Lyndon Johnson and Senator Robert F. Kennedy is the defining political relationship of the 1960s. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with historian Jeff Shesol about his book “Mutual Contempt: Lyndon Johnson, Robert Kennedy and the Feud that Defined a Decade.” Without a doubt, this is one of the best political history books I have ever read—you will enjoy our conversation with this brilliant author.
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- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Janet Allen, Artistic Director and Co-CEO of the Indiana Repertory Theater
August 12, 2022
Earlier this year the wonderful and delightful Janet Allen, Artistic Director and Co-CEO of the Indiana Repertory Theater, announced her retirement after nearly 40 years of service at one of our state’s most venerable and entertaining venues. Janet is our guest on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, and we are greatly honored to have this conversation with her.
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- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Jeffrey Frank, Author of “The Trials of Harry S. Truman: The Extraordinary Presidency of an Ordinary Man, 1945-1953”
August 08, 2022
Probably only Ulysses S. Grant has had a more beneficial and recent historical reappraisal than our 33rd president Harry Truman; on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast historian and journalist Jeffrey Frank comes on to discuss his superb new book “The Trials of Harry S. Truman: The Extraordinary Presidency of an Ordinary Man, 1945-1953. You may purchase Mr. Frank’s book here: https://amzn.to/3PVSRP3.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

James Danko, President of Butler
August 01, 2022
In 2011, James Danko became the 21st president of Butler University. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with President Danko about his career, the amazing opportunity to lead one of state’s most prestigious universities, and how he felt when Gordon Hayward’s shot just barely missed in the 2010 NCAA championship game.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Dr Tracy Borman, Author of “Crown & Sceptre: 1000 Years of Kings and Queens”
July 25, 2022
Dr Tracy Borman is one of the world’s best-selling and most-quoted historians of British history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, Dr Borman joins us from the United Kingdom to discuss her brilliant and rollicking new history of the British Monarchy: “Crown & Sceptre: 1000 Years of Kings and Queens.”
Sponsors
• Veteran Strategies
• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• MacAllister Machinery
• Garmong Construction
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Mark K. Updegrove, Author of “Incomparable Grace: JFK in the Presidency”
July 18, 2022
Mark K. Updegrove is a Presidential Historian for ABC News and president and CEO of the LBJ Foundation. He is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast; Mark and I discuss his brilliant new book “Incomparable Grace: JFK in the Presidency”. Buy it here: https://amzn.to/3IJTKaC
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Pamela Whitten, President of Indiana University
July 11, 2022
Pamela Whitten is the 19th president of Indiana University and the first female to serve in this prestigious position. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, President Whitten discusses her career and her vision for all of IU’s campuses. We are joined in the discussion by our friend and CEO of Girl Scouts of Central Indiana Danielle Shockey. Sponsors- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station

Historian Stephen Moore on General George S. Patton
July 04, 2022
As we celebrate our Fourth of July holiday, the “Leaders and Legends” podcast present a discussion with the author of a terrific book on General George S. Patton. Historian Stephen Moore’s book “Patton’s Payback” details the American Army’s victories in North Africa and their impact on the future conquest of Europe. Happy Independence Day!
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Niki Kelly, Editor-in-Chief of The Capital Chronicle
June 27, 2022
Niki Kelly is one of the most respected journalists in our state. She was recently announced as the editor-in-chief of “The Capital Chronicle”—the Indiana bureau of the States Newsroom. Our friend Jim Shella joins us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast as we discuss Niki’s career, some of the biggest stories she’s covered, and why she thinks The Capital Chronicle can make its mark on the Hoosier media scene. Oh, and we talk about Niki’s Cincinnati Bengals and their run to the Super Bowl.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Rafael Sanchez, WRTV 6 Journalist
June 20, 2022
Rafael Sanchez is one of our state’s best-known television journalists. He is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We discuss his career, some of the biggest stories he’s covered, and why a kid from the Bronx loves to call Indiana his home.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

YouTubers Asia and BJ
June 13, 2022
"Reaction videos” are all over YouTube and for good reason—they are wonderful, insightful, and a needed reminder that music unites us all. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we interview Asia and BJ who have their own channel with more than 190,000 subscribers. We talk about how they came to create their channel, the music they’ve enjoyed discovering most, and how people have reacted to their incredible message.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Catherine Ostler, Author of “The Duchess Countess”
June 06, 2022
As the saying goes, “well-behaved women rarely make history,” and the subject of this week’s podcast, Elizabeth Chudleigh, certainly fits the description. Catherine Ostler, author of “The Duchess Countess,” is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We discuss how Elizabeth “scandalized Eighteen Century London” and what parallels, if any, exist between Elizabeth’s life and that of Princess Diana. Sponsors- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station

Remembering Richard Hall
May 23, 2022
One of my favorite interviews since starting the “Leaders and Legends” podcast featured Richard Hall; a kidnap victim of Tony Kiritsis in 1977, Hall detailed not only that harrowing experience, but also his life after being thrust into the media spotlight. Richard Hall died on May 20, 2022, & we are re-posting our conversation with him in tribute to his courage and perseverance.
Sponsors
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Abdul-Hakim Shabazz, Journalist
May 16, 2022
Abdul-Hakim Shabazz is a host unto himself. Journalist, commentator, master of ceremonies, and a one-man media empire, Abdul joins us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his love of politics, his career, and what may be next on his to-do list. Our friend Chris Spangle joins the interview as co-host.
Sponsors
• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Andrew Jackson O’Shaughnessy, Author of “The Men Who Lost America”
May 09, 2022
Why did Great Britain lose the American Revolutionary War? Was it poor leadership or just a lack thereof? Andrew Jackson O’Shaughnessy is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast, and we discuss his incisive and delightful book “The Men Who Lost America.” It is a must-read if you enjoy this period of American history. Sponsors • Veteran Strategies • Girl Scouts of Central Indiana • MacAllister Machinery • Garmong Construction • Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station About Veteran Strategies ‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com. About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.
Remembering Former Marion County Sheriff Frank Anderson
May 02, 2022
Former Marion County Sheriff Frank Anderson passed away last week. Elected to the office twice, his eight years as sheriff served as the culmination of an honorable and decades-long career in law enforcement at multiple levels. In 2021, Sheriff Anderson was a guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast, and we are re-posting our interview with him in memory of his amazing career. We are joined by our friend Kevin Murray as co-host. Sponsors • Veteran Strategies • Girl Scouts of Central Indiana • MacAllister Machinery • Garmong Construction • Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station About Veteran Strategies ‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com. About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.
Brian Bosma, Former Speaker of the Indiana House of Representatives
April 25, 2022
Brian Bosma served as speaker of the Indiana House of Representatives for more years than anyone in our state’s history. He is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We talk with Brian about his career in politics, how his family always honored public service, and why effective leadership matters so much. Our friend Jim Shella joins us for the interview. Thank you for listening. Sponsors • Veteran Strategies • Girl Scouts of Central Indiana • MacAllister Machinery • Garmong Construction • Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station About Veteran Strategies ‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com. About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.
Milt Thompson, Indianapolis Entrepreneur, Civic Leader, and Philanthropist
April 18, 2022
Milt Thompson is simply in a class by himself—entrepreneur, civic leader, philanthropist, the list goes on. Milt is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We talk about his love of baseball, how Indianapolis has changed during his lifetime, and how the Civil Rights movement shaped his life and career.
Sponsors:
- Veteran Strategies
- Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
- MacAllister Machinery
- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies:
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana:
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

David Benner, former director of media relations for the Indiana Pacers
April 11, 2022
The amazing career of David Benner, who is retiring after 28 years as director of media relations for the Indiana Pacers, is getting some well-deserved attention and accolades. He set the standard not only in the Indianapolis market for the past several decades, but also throughout the world of professional sports. We talked with David for the “Leaders and Legends” podcast a few months ago and wanted to commemorate his retirement by reposting our conversation. Congratulations, David. Sponsors • Veteran Strategies • Girl Scouts of Central Indiana • MacAllister Machinery • Garmong Construction • Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station About Veteran Strategies ‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com. About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.
Derek Schultz, Sports Commentator
April 04, 2022
Derek Schultz’s sports commentary is “must-hear” radio in the Hoosier State. Derek is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Please listen as we discuss as many sports topics as we can in about sixty minutes. Just like on his show, Derek isn’t shy about sharing his informed and intelligent opinions.
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About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

John Ferling, Historian and Author of “Winning Independence”
March 28, 2022
Professor John Ferling is one of the world’s leading authorities on the American Revolution and has appeared on the History Channel, PBS, C-SPAN, and many more outlets. He is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast, and we discuss his book “Winning Independence” detailing the end of our country’s seminal conflict.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
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About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Roger Harvey, Former TV Journalist
March 21, 2022
Roger Harvey is one of the best public relations professionals I’ve ever met—but he also had an award-winning career as a television journalist before joining Bose Public Affairs. Roger is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We discuss his career, some of the stories he covered, and how to message some of the toughest issues in our state and beyond.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Patty Martin, CEO of BioCrossroads
March 14, 2022
Patty Martin is one of our state’s most accomplished and respected leaders. She is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Patty talks about being CEO of BioCrossroads, her time as an executive at Eli Lilly, the importance of investing in tech (and its people), and why she decided to get her bartender’s license. Our friend Danielle Shockey, CEO Girl Scouts of Central Indiana, joins us for a lively discussion.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Katja Hoyer, Author of “Blood and Iron: The Rise and Fall of the German Empire”
March 07, 2022
Katja Hoyer’s new book, “Blood and Iron: The Rise and Fall of the German Empire”, was published in 2021 to incredibly positive reviews. Her book is just terrific. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, Katja details why and how the creation of the German Empire completely changed world history. Given what’s happening in the Ukraine a discussion of European history is timely.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Dan Coats, former US senator and director of national intelligence, on Ukraine
February 28, 2022
In the first of a two-part podcast interview, former Indiana Senator and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats dissects the latest news from the war in Ukraine, the world’s response to the Russian invasion, and how the bravery of the Ukrainian people may affect China’s designs on Taiwan. We also discuss how Dan got his start in politics and who are some of the Hoosier public officials he admires the most.
Gregg Doyel, Sports Columnist for The Indianapolis Star
February 21, 2022
Gregg Doyel is the sports columnist for The Indianapolis Star and this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Just like with his writing, Gregg pulls no punches when it comes to his opinions and answering our questions. Our interview was as fun and forthcoming as you would expect. We discuss why he thinks Mackey Arena is better than Assembly Hall, his thoughts on the Pacers, Colts, and Indianapolis as a sports city. As always, thank you for listening.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
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About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Historian Willard Sterne Randall on his book “The Founders Fortunes: How Money Shaped the Birth of America”
February 14, 2022
How did the American Revolution affect the financial prospect of men like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson? In his latest book “The Founders Fortunes: How Money Shaped the Birth of America” award-winning historian Willard Sterne Randall details how a loss by the colonists in this war would have led to ruin for rich and poor alike. Randall also discusses the impact of slavery not only on the colonial economy but also why it was destroyed as a result of the Constitutional Convention in 1787.

John Thompson, Chairman of the Indiana Chamber of Commerce
February 07, 2022
John Thompson is one of our state’s leading entrepreneurs and respected civic leaders. He is also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We talk with John about his love for the Colts (going back to when he was growing up in Baltimore), why he is so dedicated to civic involvement, and which Hoosier leader or legend he admires most. We are very grateful to John for his time and hope you enjoy our conversation.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
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About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
About Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
We're 2.5 million strong—more than 1.7 million girls and 750,000 adults who believe in the power of every G.I.R.L. (Go-getter, Innovator, Risk-taker, Leader)™ to change the world. Our extraordinary journey began more than 100 years ago with the original G.I.R.L., Juliette Gordon “Daisy” Low. On March 12, 1912, in Savannah, Georgia, she organized the very first Girl Scout troop, and every year since, we’ve honored her vision and legacy, building girls of courage, confidence, and character who make the world a better place. We’re the preeminent leadership development organization for girls. And with programs from coast to coast and across the globe, Girl Scouts offers every girl a chance to practice a lifetime of leadership, adventure, and success. To volunteer, reconnect, donate, or join, visit girlscoutsindiana.org or call 317.924.6800.

Brad Tolinski, Author of “Light and Shade: Conversations with Jimmy Page.”
January 31, 2022
If you love Led Zeppelin, then I hope you will also love this week’s podcast with author Brad Tolinski—he comes on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his book “Light and Shade: Conversations with Jimmy Page.” We discuss Page’s musical foundations and how Led Zeppelin ruled the 1970s while cementing a permanent place in music history.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
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Chris Jensen, Mayor of Noblesville
January 24, 2022
In 2019 proud Miller Chris Jensen was elected mayor of Noblesville. His resume also includes working for Lt. Gov. Becky Skillman and serving as the executive director of the 2016 Indiana Bicentennial Commission. Mayor Jensen joins the “Leaders and Legends” podcast this week to discuss his career, his love of Butler University, and what (and who) inspired him to run for elective office. You will not find a bolder or more innovative young leader in our state & we are thrilled to have him as a guest on the podcast.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.

Ann Murtlow, President and CEO at United Way of Central Indiana
January 17, 2022
Ann Murtlow’s leadership has made a significant difference for so many people around our state and beyond. In her first in-depth interview since announcing her retirement as President and CEO at United Way of Central Indiana, Ann discusses her career, how Hoosiers have impacted her, and what’s next in her life in a conversation with fellow CEO Danielle Shockey (Girl Scouts of Central Indiana)—and I jump in for a few questions too.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
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Dana Hunsinger Benbow, Sports Reporter for The Indianapolis Star
January 10, 2022
Dana Hunsinger Benbow is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Dana is a sports reporter for The Indianapolis Star who writes consistently compelling prose about our Hoosier sports landscape and the people who inhabit it. She has covered several landmark events and interviewed numerous sports leaders and legends. Dana talks with us about her favorite stories, her pet goat Gus, and her love for Vanilla Ice in a delightful interview. Thank you for listening.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
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About Veteran Strategies
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George Will, Columnist for the Washington Post
January 03, 2022
George Will is one of the most respected commentators and famous baseball fans in the United States—and he’s also 2022’s first guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We talked with Mr. Will about baseball, history, and his respect and admiration for former governor and current Purdue University President Mitch Daniels. Thank you for listening to our interview.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
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About Veteran Strategies
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Our 2021 Retrospective with Robert Vane and Chris Spangle
December 27, 2021
While 2021 has had its share of disappointing moments, we at the “Leaders and Legends” podcast were honored to have some amazing guests come on to discuss their careers, research, achievements, and greatest influences. From historians to former governors and from journalists to entrepreneurs, we’ve been so fortunate that people from around the world were willing to spend an hour with us. On this week’s podcast, Chris Spangle and I review 2021 and also discuss what’s coming up in the new year. As always, we thank you for listening.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
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Brad Chambers, Indiana’s Secretary of Commerce
December 20, 2021
Brad Chambers is Indiana’s Secretary of Commerce, the CEO of the Indiana Economic Development Corporation, and one of our state’s most successful business and civic-minded leaders. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with Brad about our state’s myriad economic opportunities, what drove him to become an entrepreneur while still at IU, and which artist he would want to paint his family portrait.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
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Dr. Neil Lanctot, Author of “The Approaching Storm: Roosevelt, Wilson, Addams and Their Clash Over America’s Future”
December 13, 2021
Dr. Neil Lanctot is the author of a new book on the United States' entry into World War I, and he’s also our guest on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast. “The Approaching Storm: Roosevelt, Wilson, Addams and Their Clash Over America’s Future” is a terrific accounting of one of our country’s most watershed decisions and the people who shaped it.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
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Evan Bayh, Former Governor and Senator of Indiana
December 06, 2021
Evan Bayh is one of only two Hoosiers to win statewide elective office at least five times. He was a governor, a United States Senator, and now we’re happy to say he’s our guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We talk with him about his career, what it was like to grow up with such formidable parents, and how proud he is of the people who have worked for him. Our friend Jim Shella joins us for the conversation.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
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Willard Sterne Randall on the Founding Fathers
November 29, 2021
Willard Sterne Randall is one of America’s most eminent historians of the Colonial and Revolutionary Era. He makes the first of two appearances on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his biographies of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, and other literary efforts.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
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Brad Tolinski, Author of “Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen”
November 22, 2021
Former Guitar World magazine editor-in-chief Brad Tolinski is one of the world’s most famous and respected music journalists. He appears on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his new book, “Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen.” We talk about Eddie’s untimely death, Brad’s decade-long friendship with Van Halen, and the impact EVH had on music and musicians.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
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Becky Skillman, Former Lt. Governor of Indiana
November 15, 2021
Becky Skillman served Hoosiers with distinction as their 49th lieutenant governor—but her career was remarkable long before she joined Mitch Daniels’ ticket in 2004. She held several elected offices and was in the room when some of our state’s most pivotal decisions were being made. She joins the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss her career, her love of Indiana and even divulges her high school nickname. We are grateful to have our friend Jim Shella joins us for the discussion.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
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Professor Allen Guelzo on Robert E. Lee
November 08, 2021
Professor Allen Guelzo of Princeton University is one of our country’s pre-eminent scholars of the American Civil War. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, Dr Guelzo discusses his new, highly-praised biography of Confederate General Robert E. Lee and a few other Civil War topics.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
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Dr. Katie Jenner, Indiana’s first Secretary of Education
November 01, 2021
Dr. Katie Jenner is Indiana’s first Secretary of Education and this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast with our co-host, CEO of Girl Scouts of Central Indiana and former principal Danielle Shockey. We talk with Secretary Jenner about her new role, her love of teaching, and how jobs, economic development, and education all support each other.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
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Historian Michael Dobbs, Author of “One Minute to Midnight”
October 25, 2021
In October 1962, the United States and the Soviet Union stood on the brink of mutual nuclear annihilation. Historian Michael Dobbs returns to the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his book “One Minute to Midnight” which details this most terrifying moment of the Cold War. If you are old enough to remember it, then you are old enough to remember how scared you were. Learn more about this definitive book on the Cuban missile crisis here: https://www.michaeldobbsbooks.com/one-minute-to-midnight.html
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
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Murray Clark and Kip Tew, Former State Chairs of the Republican and Democratic Parties of Indiana (Respectively)
October 18, 2021
The list of my political friends who have fought the good fight is a long one for sure. Today on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast we chat with my former boss at the Indiana Republican Party Murray Clark and his friend and Democrat extraordinaire Kip Tew about their careers in politics, wins and losses, and why politics is where you can meet some of the very best people. Former State House reporter and political journalist Jim Shella joins us for the discussion as well.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
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David Benner, Director of Media Relations for the Indiana Pacers
October 04, 2021
David Benner is the director of Media Relations for the Indiana Pacers who just announced he’s retiring at the end of the coming NBA season. For 27 years, David has set a sterling example of what professional sports communications is all about. He joins us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his time with the Pacers, his career as a sports journalist for the Indianapolis Star, and, of course, to get in a few shots at his brother—the illustrious Bill Benner.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
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Dr Suzannah Lipscomb, Host of “Not Just the Tudors”
September 27, 2021
Dr. Suzannah Lipscomb is one of the world’s most popular British historians with a social media following of more than 200,000 people. She received her Ph.D. from Oxford University and hosts her own podcast called “Not Just the Tudors.” She Zoomed with the “Leaders and Legends” podcast all the way from Great Britain to talk Henry VIII’s marriages, is Queen Elizabeth overrated, and the importance of learning from the past.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
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Claudia Cummings, President and CEO of the Indiana Philanthropy Alliance
September 20, 2021
Claudia Cummings’ career is a model of public sector and philanthropic service. Claudia joins us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss some of the things she’s learned along the way, what it’s like to be a part of the election process, and her current role as president and CEO of the Indiana Philanthropy Alliance. We are joined by co-host Danielle Shockey, CEO of Girl Scouts of Central Indiana.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
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Paul Page, Author of “Hello, I’m Paul Page and it’s Race Day in Indianapolis”
September 13, 2021
Paul Page is one of Indianapolis’ most endearing and enduring sports journalists. His career as the “Voice of the Indianapolis 500” spanned decades, and he comes on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his favorite drivers, favorite races, his friendship with the Eastside’s own Scott Roembke, and promote his new book “Hello, I’m Paul Page and it’s Race Day in Indianapolis” (he says it a lot better than I do).
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
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Dr. Craig Symonds, American Naval and Military History
September 06, 2021
Dr. Craig Symonds is a brilliant and best-selling historian of American naval and military history. He’s also written about D-Day and the Battle of Gettysburg among other works. Professor Symonds joins me on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his career, key points in American history, and what it’s like to be called “impressive and extremely gracious” by actor Tom Hanks.
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- Garmong Construction
- Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
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Remembering Congresswoman Julia Carson
August 30, 2021
Congresswoman Julia Carson broke down barriers while building up the people and opportunities in her district. Her grandson, Congressman Andre Carson, and her long-time friend Cordelia Lewis-Burks join Jim Shella and me to discuss Mrs. Carson’s impact, her courage, and her incomparable Hoosier legacy.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
• Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station
About Veteran Strategies
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Cathy Langham, Owner and President of Langham Logistics, Inc.
August 23, 2021
Cathy Langham is one of the most respected and successful entrepreneurs in all of Indiana, and she’s also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Joined by our wonderful co-host Danielle Shockey, CEO of Girl Scouts of Central Indiana, we talk with Cathy about her career, being a woman CEO, her love of Indiana University, and how Governor Mitch Daniels changed the business culture for the better in the Hoosier State.
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• Girl Scouts of Central Indiana
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Notre Dame Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick
August 16, 2021
Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick is one of the most accomplished and respected civic leaders in the history of modern Indianapolis (and Indiana). Jack is our guest on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We discuss his very successful legal career, his love of sports, and what it’s like on gameday for the Fighting Irish.
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Michael Dobbs, Author of “King Richard: Nixon and Watergate: An American Tragedy”
August 09, 2021
It was 47 years ago today that embattled Richard Nixon resigned the presidency due to the scandals collectively known as Watergate. In Michael Dobbs’ brilliant new book, “King Richard: Nixon and Watergate: An American Tragedy”, one of our best historians dissects the six months after Nixon’s re-election and details how a man who won 49 states in 1972 resigned less than two years later. Michael comes on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss one of our country’s most bizarre and enduring episodes.
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Al Unser, Jr., Two-Time Winner of the Indy 500
August 02, 2021
Al Unser, Jr. is not only a two-time champion of the Indianapolis 500, a scion of one of racing’s greatest families, and one of the most popular drivers in the history of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway—he’s also this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. “Little Al” tells some great stories about his career, explains what it was like to race with his dad and uncle, and talks about winning the closest race in Indy 500 history. Sponsors • Veteran Strategies • Girl Scouts of Central Indiana • MacAllister Machinery • Garmong Construction • Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station About Veteran Strategies ‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
Historian Fergus Bordewich on His Book “Congress At War”
July 26, 2021
Abraham Lincoln gets most of the attention given for political and governmental leadership during the American Civil War and deservedly so. The role of Congress during the war, however, is a compelling story in its own right. Historian Fergus Bordewich has written a book, “Congress At War”, that details the efforts of the House and Senate that worked both in concert and at odds with President Lincoln. He discusses this terrific literary effort on this week's “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Sponsors • Veteran Strategies • Girl Scouts of Central Indiana • MacAllister Machinery • Garmong Construction • Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station About Veteran Strategies ‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
Gerry Dick, Host of “Inside Indiana Business”
July 19, 2021
Gerry Dick’s career on Indiana television spans decades. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with the host of “Inside Indiana Business” about his career in journalism, some of his favorite interview subjects, and how much the Hoosier State has changed while he’s been on the air. Sponsors • Veteran Strategies • Girl Scouts of Central Indiana • MacAllister Machinery • Garmong Construction • Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station About Veteran Strategies ‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
Fred Glass, Former Vice President and Director of Athletics at Indiana University
July 12, 2021
Fred Glass is one of the most respected civic leaders in Modern Indianapolis. He also served as a Vice President and athletic director at his alma mater, Indiana University. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with Fred about his career in politics, what it was like to be a student in Bloomington during some of Coach Bob Knight’s and IU basketball’s glory years, and what makes our state and Hoosiers so incredibly unique. Sponsors • Veteran Strategies • Girl Scouts of Central Indiana • MacAllister Machinery • Garmong Construction • Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station About Veteran Strategies ‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
Ted Widmer, author of ‘Lincoln on the Verge’
July 05, 2021
Abraham Lincoln’s journey to Washington, D.C., to take the oath of office was the most dangerous in history. In his book “Lincoln on the Verge”, professor Ted Widmer details Lincoln’s perils and progress, which includes a stop in Indianapolis where he almost lost the text to his first inaugural address. The “Leaders and Legends” podcast is honored to have one of country’s leading historians on to discuss one of the most brilliant and fascinating books I’ve ever read. Sponsors • Veteran Strategies • Girl Scouts of Central Indiana • MacAllister Machinery • Garmong Construction • Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station About Veteran Strategies ‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com.
Frank Anderson, Former Marion County Sheriff and United States Marshal
June 28, 2021
Frank Anderson has one of the most impressive careers in public service that I’ve ever encountered. The former Marion County sheriff and United States Marshal joins the “Leaders and Legends” podcast for a fun and somewhat jolting discussion. Want to know what terrorist Timothy McVeigh’s last moments were like before his execution? Sheriff Anderson was there. We are joined by Scecina graduate and unofficial McGinley’s Golden Ace general counsel Kevin Murray for the discussion.
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Michael Huber, CEO of the Greater Indianapolis Chamber of Commerce
June 21, 2021
Our friend Michael Huber had me on his “Michael Loves Indy” podcast a little while ago and this week we return the favor; Michael is the president and CEO of the Greater Indianapolis Chamber of Commerce, a fellow Mayor Ballard alum, and one of our state’s most respected leaders. He has an unbelievable love & talent for music and sits down with us for a fun interview on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast.
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Paul Lushin, Founder and CEO of Lushin, Inc
June 14, 2021
Paul Lushin has had one of the most varied and interesting entrepreneurial careers I’ve ever encountered. As founder and CEO of Lushin, Inc, Paul has helped transform and grow companies all over the United States. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast Paul talks about his success, helping others find this same success, and what it was like to drink beers with the Sex Pistols.
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Andrew Nagorski, Author of “1941: The Year Germany Lost the War”
June 07, 2021
When did Germany lose World War II? According to journalist and historian Andrew Nagorski, Hitler’s fate was sealed near the very beginning of the conflict. Andrew joins us on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his superb book “1941: The Year Germany Lost the War.” If you are a student of history’s most seminal and brutal conflict, you will enjoy hearing Andrew discuss his writings and research.
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Brigadier General Stewart Goodwin, Executive Director of the Indiana War Memorials
May 31, 2021
On Memorial Day weekend, the “Leaders and Legends” podcast features a conversation with Brigadier General Stewart Goodwin. The general spent 37 years in the military, but is probably best known as the smiling face that gives impromptu tours at the Indiana War Memorial. The general discusses his career, the meaning of service, and how no city or state does a better job honoring their veterans. Danielle Shockey, CEO of Girl Scouts of Central Indiana, joins us as co-host for the podcast.
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Historian Peter Cozzens on His Book “Tecumseh and the Prophet”
May 24, 2021
Historian Peter Cozzens has written some of the most popular and well-received books on American History—and he’s our guest on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Peter talks about his latest book “Tecumseh and the Prophet” and his brilliant books on the Western Theater during the American Civil War.
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Malcolm Moran, Journalist
May 17, 2021
Malcolm Moran is one of the most honored sports journalists in America. He has covered nearly 40 Final Fours, 11 Super Bowls, 16 World Series, and too many other premier sporting events to count. Additionally, Malcolm is the director of the Sports Capital Journalism Program at IUPUI. Malcolm joins the “Leaders and Legends” podcast to discuss his career, the joys of mentoring young journalists, and how fun it was to cover the Knicks-Pacers wars of the 1990s.
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Indianapolis Motor Speedway President Doug Boles
May 10, 2021
Indianapolis Motor Speedway President Doug Boles is one of the most respected, visionary, and brilliant leaders in the Hoosier State and beyond. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with Doug about his career, the specialness that is the Month of May, the passing of Bobby Unser, and why it's important for him to wear a tie when he represents the greatest sporting venue in the world.
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Robin Miller, Journalist
May 03, 2021
Robin Miller is a Hall of Famer in more ways than one—sportswriter, story teller, and champion of the Workingman’s Friend. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, fellow Hall of Famer Bill Benner joins me for a discussion of Robin’s biggest stories, favorite races, and why Indianapolis is one of the greatest sports towns in the world. Robin also answers the question—who has a worse temper: A.J. Foyt or Bobby Knight. Sponsor • Veteran Strategies • Girl Scouts of Central Indiana • MacAllister Machinery • Garmong Construction • Crowne Plaza Downtown Indianapolis Historic Union Station About Veteran Strategies ‘Leaders and Legends’ is brought to you by Veteran Strategies—your local veteran business enterprise specializing in media relations, crisis communications, public outreach, and digital photography. Learn more at www.veteranstrategies.com
Professor Stephen Fritz On His Book “The First Soldier: Hitler as Military Leader”
April 26, 2021
Was Adolf Hitler’s military leadership truly the cause of Nazi Germany’s defeat in World War II? On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with best-selling historian Professor Stephen Fritz about Hitler’s performance as supreme commander during the war, how his military performance was affected by his political insanity, and how hard it is for an author to be complimentary of Adolph Hitler’s performance even when praise is justified.
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Remember Governor Frank O’Bannon
April 19, 2021
Frank O’Bannon is one of the most successful political figures in Indiana history. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we are joined by Mary Dieter, Robin Winston, and John Gregg to discuss the governor’s legacy, his governing style, and his tragic passing. We are also joined by political reporter emeritus Jim Shella as co-host.
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Teresa Lubbers, Indiana’s Commissioner of Higher Education
April 12, 2021
Teresa Lubbers is a former state senator and is currently Indiana’s Commissioner of Higher Education. She worked for Senator Richard Lugar and is a proud Eastsider by birth (she graduated from Warren Central). She joins Danielle Shockey and me to talk about her life dedicated to helping Hoosiers receive a stronger education, what it was like to work for Senator Lugar, and some of her favorite moments in a life dedicated to public service.
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Mitch Daniels, Part 2
April 07, 2021
Governor Mitch Daniels’s administration is one of the most consequential in the history of Indiana. We celebrate his 72nd birthday by posting a new interview—this one covers his seminal 2004 campaign and his eight years in office. While we weren’t able to cover everything, we did the best we could. We even got the governor to answer a brand new Five Questions.
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Mitch Daniels, Part 1
April 05, 2021
It was back in August 2019 that the “Leaders and Legends” podcast posted our conversation with Purdue University President Mitch Daniels; we are reposting it today because on April 7th (Mitch’s 72nd birthday), we will post a new interview with the governor. Today’s conversation covers his career until the events of September 11, 2001.
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Barry Collier, Butler Athletic Director
March 29, 2021
Butler athletic director Barry Collier knows a thing or two about the NCAA tournament and winning basketball games. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we talk with Coach Collier about his coaching career, the ‘Butler Way’, and what he was thinking when the ball left Gordon Hayward’s hands.
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Professor Bruce Levine on Thaddeus Stevens
March 22, 2021
Representative Thaddeus Stevens—famously portrayed by Tommy Lee Jones in the movie “Lincoln”—was one of the first and most fiery Republican abolitionists of the 19th century. On this week’s Leaders and Legends podcast, we interview Professor Bruce Levine who has written the definitive biography of this titan who fought ferociously for equality, justice, and the defeat of the Confederacy.
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Vic Ryckaert, Journalist
March 15, 2021
Vic Ryckaert is a former Marine, one of the best journalists with whom I’ve ever worked, and is this week’s guest on the “Leaders and Legends” podcast. We talk with Vic about what made him join the military, some of the biggest stories he covered while at The Indianapolis Star, and why, when I worked for Mayor Ballard, he found no shame in calling me at 11 o’clock at night for a quote.
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Remembering Benjamin Harrison, The 23rd President of the United States
March 08, 2021
Benjamin Harrison was the 23rd president of the United States and a proud resident of Indianapolis. On this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast, we discuss the life and times of this Hoosier president with historian Dan Miller, Ph.D. and Charles Hyde, president and CEO at the Benjamin Harrison Presidential Site. We also play a game called “Six Degrees of Benjamin Harrison” that demonstrates the impact the president had on people’s lives.
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Sarah Taylor, Executive Director of the Hoosier Lottery
March 01, 2021
Sarah Taylor is one of the most well-liked and respected public officials in modern Indianapolis history. She is also our guest on this week’s “Leaders and Legends” podcast. Sarah currently is the executive director of the Hoosier Lottery and also was twice elected as Clerk of the Courts for Marion County. She talks to us about her career, what it was like to work for Mayor Greg Ballard, and if she gets upset waiting in line behind people buying lottery tickets.
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David O. Stewart on “George Washington: The Political Rise of America’s Founding Father”
February 22, 2021
Today is George Washington’s 289th birthday and the Leaders and Legends podcast is celebrating it by interviewing the Father of Our Country’s latest biographer. David O. Stewart’s account focuses on Washington’s interest in, and talent for, politics. He never lost an election and created the traditions and practice of the American presidency. Washington also walked away from the most powerful position in the United States—not once, but twice. Happy Birthday Mr. President. The book, "George Washington: The Political Rise of America's Founding Father,” is available for purchase at Amazon.
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